Posted by marius van witzenburg on July 4th, 2007 at 10:32 pm Pauly, could you clarify this statement, with references? however you are guilty of what you are accusing me of I m not sure what I accused you of, other than perhaps an overzealous (if understandable) reaction to the shit talkers and I most certainly don t know what it is that I am guilty of doing. I voiced my opinion here, in a public forum, and asked that my opinion of this procedure not automatically be labeled as shit talking simply because it s negative.
Your statement that you are guilty of what you are accusing me of is confusing and imo misleading: I haven t accused you of anything. Perhaps my statement of Please afford me the same courtesy? has been taking as suggesting that you were trying to censor my opinions?
That s the only thing I can think of. I never meant to put you on the defensive, I was only trying to clarify that my opinion of this procedure is a valid one, whether or not it agrees with anyone else s. Posted by molex on July 4th, 2007 at 11:49 pm gah, that is so disgusting!
But putting my squeemishness aside, this looks really extreamly dangerous. The wrong move could potentialy blind you or cause an infection that could blind you; I dont know I think its a stupid place to be tattooed. And stupid as in placement, not that the thought is stupid.
Posted by Becca on July 5th, 2007 at 4:21 am Pauly ..I have no problem with the stuff you enjoy doing to yourself .
But I m bettin, if you go blind, after a while you ll be askin yourself why you did it ..weather you think you have it all figured out or not, you never stop learning and growing .
Why would you ever assume your own opinion would NEVER change .. Posted by Max Brand on July 5th, 2007 at 3:44 pm oh .
and baseball isn t cool ..but sometime when your a kid baseball cards are cool .
. Posted by Max Brand on July 5th, 2007 at 3:45 pm Did you only tattoo one eye each, or did you do both? :) This is amazing tbh, I d love to be the first to do something, especially if I d been wanting to for ages whatever the risks.
Hope it all goes well and everything, looks really good :) Posted by SmokeMyBones on July 5th, 2007 at 5:22 pm This procedure seems, to me, to be one based on “can we do it?” rather than “I need to do this…” In the words of the great Jeff Goldblum They were so busy thinking whether they COULD they didn t stop to think whether they SHOULD . Paully if i go blind so be it I think somewhere along the way you have actually lost a basic understandding of what body decoration is if that is your attitude.
Posted by Giles Wallwork on July 5th, 2007 at 6:04 pm Like many of my body modification posts, this may not be for those that are squeamish and following any links in this post may lead you to NSFW material What s the last place on your body you would expect to get tattooed? Most people would answ Posted by Geeked Info on July 5th, 2007 at 10:35 pm Firstly I am going to say this. I am an individual who suffers from several severe eye conditions one which is making me a prime candidate for early Macular Degeneration.
Basically my eyes are oval and still growing back which is stretching my retina like a rubber band. The likelihood of my retina detaching and me losing my vision increases almost every year. Because of this I have to visit the eye doctor every six months to have things checked out and make sure I m alright.
At 22 my vision is just as bad if not worse than many of your grandparents. every single day I am threatened with the serious possibility that I could lose my vision. For the most part I am good about not letting it bother me but it s always something I have in the back of my mind.
And I have to keep it in the back of my mind so I don t do something stupid or find myself in an accident where I hit my head too hard. The reason I writing this is because after seeing this I became incredibly offended and upset over the fact that someone would threaten the healthy vision they have to do something like experimenting what might happen if they want to change the white of their eye to another color. I would full fucking serious give my entire left leg if I knew I would be able to have perfect vision until I m old in at least one eye.
As I m sure the millions of individuals worse off than me and the millions who are completely blind would do more to have vision as good as mine. This just saddens me to an exponential extent. Now I know these individuals meant no disrespect to those with sight problems.
What I expressed above is a general one I have for anyone who attempts seriously dangerous actions on themselves which can result in something so life changing as causing them to go blind when they have two sets of perfect eyes that allow them to see everything beautiful in this world. The second reason this, and the following posts upset me is due to the fact that this procedure is so incredibly experimental. This should not have been presented to the public until it was completely healed and monitored for quite some time following the procedure for any later complications.
I feel it was incredibly irresponsible of Shannon to publicly post something like this so early on. Had it been something posted on a more private site for individuals mature and educated enough to view and discuss everything I don t feel I d be as aroused over the subject matter. Being a piercer I cannot even list how many occasions I ve had someone come into the shop literally begging me for some insane piercing they saw on here that was taken out immediately after or took the serious time and effort of an individual who knows what they were doing to heal the thing.
Or all the kids who see people with big lobes and think they are the end all of cool and stretch as fast as fucking possible. It s these kids who are going to read this and despite the warnings are going to do it anyway by themselves with a fucking needle and pen ink. We don t live in a world anymore where most people think before they do shit; especially kids.
Parents couldn t care less what their children are doing or looking at on the web. It s posts like this that are going to get BME in trouble later down the road. I message him now and again and he s always been super positive about everything and writes me back quick with lengthly responses.
I believe Howie does incredible work and have considered getting stuff done by him in the future. If it wasn t for Shannon half us wouldn t know each other or be able to have such an open forum to discuss different topics pertaining to the body modification industry. And I don t know the other individual involved but I m sure he s a straight thinking and positive individual as well.
Regardless of all of this I just can t let myself accept what has been done here or promote it with anything less of distaste. I just can t honestly understand why someone would jeopardize their sight of all things. And again, To Shannon, I really think publicizing this so early was a poor decision and quite irresponsible on your part.
A post like this makes it seem as though you wanted to show off as fast as possible rather than thoughtfully present the experimental procedure to the appropriate people down the line from qualified professionals to the general public that frequent this page. It is stuff like this that make me feel like the envelope is pushed just to push it. And what promotes this feeling, again, is the fact that it was presented to the public so haphazardly.
If it wasn t for our sight none of us would be able to even fathom the immense beauty of body modification. It is a sense we have that is far stronger than taste, smell, or hearing. The idea of putting this sense in a position where it could be seriously damaged or lost is saddening.
And the fact that it was presented in such a way that it could effect immature individuals who are too young or sheltered to understand the severity of the procedure is even more saddening. I sincerely wish those involved the best of luck in healing and making it through with no problems; both short term and long. And my strongest hope will constantly be sent out that those who shouldn t see this page continue not to view it.
Posted by Sean on July 6th, 2007 at 1:59 am Sean - Best post on the subject so far.
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